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		<title>By: The Year in Sexism : NO QUARTER</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Year in Sexism : NO QUARTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 00:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] dimensional. It&#8217;s a losing proposition. We cannot control the political climate around us. Four of the 10 most vulnerable Senate seats in 2010 are held by Democratic women&#8212;Lincoln-AR, Landrieu-LA, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] dimensional. It&rsquo;s a losing proposition. We cannot control the political climate around us. Four of the 10 most vulnerable Senate seats in 2010 are held by Democratic women&mdash;Lincoln-AR, Landrieu-LA, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The New Agenda &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Another Women&#8217;s Healthcare Smackdown&#8230;&#8230;What To Do</title>
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		<dc:creator>The New Agenda &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Another Women&#8217;s Healthcare Smackdown&#8230;&#8230;What To Do</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] here&#8217;s the other aspect: We cannot control the political climate around us. Four of the 10 most vulnerable Senate seats in 2010 are held by Democratic women: Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark.), [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] here&#8217;s the other aspect: We cannot control the political climate around us. Four of the 10 most vulnerable Senate seats in 2010 are held by Democratic women: Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark.), [...]</p>
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		<title>By: bruce nahin</title>
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		<dc:creator>bruce nahin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As it was raining today and thus no filming, I had occassion to run several errands including the tire store. While there I spoke with several conservative white males...the ones who you would think would never even dream of a woman president- all support Sarah for president- so whether or not you agree with her politics  it is clear that the glass ceiling may finally get broken a woman and will be in the white house in 2012- if the good old boys dont have a problem with it clearly the times have changed- and we can thank HRC and Sarah for the attitude adjustment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As it was raining today and thus no filming, I had occassion to run several errands including the tire store. While there I spoke with several conservative white males&#8230;the ones who you would think would never even dream of a woman president- all support Sarah for president- so whether or not you agree with her politics  it is clear that the glass ceiling may finally get broken a woman and will be in the white house in 2012- if the good old boys dont have a problem with it clearly the times have changed- and we can thank HRC and Sarah for the attitude adjustment</p>
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		<title>By: bruce nahin</title>
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		<dc:creator>bruce nahin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ann you lost me in all the Freudian stuff- but we do seem to agree on the issue of parity. What Janis was speaking of was my suggestion that we should vote for women over men  period until parity is acheived. That agendas and issues ought not divide this resolve. That this means yes to Pelosi and Bachman and HRC and Palin and Whitman and Coakley etc. My thought was that if you let issues ddivde you( ie abortion) you will never acheive parity as you will remain divided. I suggested that Palin and HRC have much more in common then they are different and that is true of all women...I honestly dont have the foggiest what an Adam complex is but I recall all sorts of Freudian mumbo jumbo I slept through at UCLA and perhaps that was one of them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann you lost me in all the Freudian stuff- but we do seem to agree on the issue of parity. What Janis was speaking of was my suggestion that we should vote for women over men  period until parity is acheived. That agendas and issues ought not divide this resolve. That this means yes to Pelosi and Bachman and HRC and Palin and Whitman and Coakley etc. My thought was that if you let issues ddivde you( ie abortion) you will never acheive parity as you will remain divided. I suggested that Palin and HRC have much more in common then they are different and that is true of all women&#8230;I honestly dont have the foggiest what an Adam complex is but I recall all sorts of Freudian mumbo jumbo I slept through at UCLA and perhaps that was one of them</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Valentine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann Valentine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meanwhile I think every man suffers from varying degrees of what I think should be coined &quot;Adam Syndrome&quot;. Some men have it worse than others; the percieved lack of completeness as a man and the need to find his role because of his percieved incompleteness, since he is not a woman. Anytime a woman does something that he has sequestered as his (man&#039;s role) alone, she becomes a threat, and the threat is her femaleness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile I think every man suffers from varying degrees of what I think should be coined &#8220;Adam Syndrome&#8221;. Some men have it worse than others; the percieved lack of completeness as a man and the need to find his role because of his percieved incompleteness, since he is not a woman. Anytime a woman does something that he has sequestered as his (man&#8217;s role) alone, she becomes a threat, and the threat is her femaleness.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Valentine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann Valentine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think when we achieve parity we can start discussing women&#039;s individual politics, but I&#039;m also fed up with the hypocrisy wherein the women do not trash a man with similar politics but are all too happy to jump on a villifying band wagon of woman hatred, because the politician is female. 

Men have got women so starved, in fact, that I have figured out the basis of love in women. Once a man treats her with even an ounce of decency, she falls in love with him. Men starve women psychologically in the media, focusing on her appearance, ignoring her achievements, focusing on men&#039;s achievements as doers that once a man maybe looks at her as a human being, if only once, she is in love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think when we achieve parity we can start discussing women&#8217;s individual politics, but I&#8217;m also fed up with the hypocrisy wherein the women do not trash a man with similar politics but are all too happy to jump on a villifying band wagon of woman hatred, because the politician is female. </p>
<p>Men have got women so starved, in fact, that I have figured out the basis of love in women. Once a man treats her with even an ounce of decency, she falls in love with him. Men starve women psychologically in the media, focusing on her appearance, ignoring her achievements, focusing on men&#8217;s achievements as doers that once a man maybe looks at her as a human being, if only once, she is in love.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Valentine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann Valentine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’m sorry, but you have to look beyond the traditional female desire to take pleasure in the punishment of a female you don’t like or one who isn’t in your tribe. If you can’t do that, and if most women can’t do that, there is truly no hope at all.&quot;

What if it isn&#039;t traditional female desire but female desire to be included in the men&#039;s business? Divide and conquer. Men tell the women, but it&#039;s because she&#039;s -that- woman, and -that woman- changes every time...but the women still fall for it.

&quot;Whatsoever you do to the least of my people, that you do unto me&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m sorry, but you have to look beyond the traditional female desire to take pleasure in the punishment of a female you don’t like or one who isn’t in your tribe. If you can’t do that, and if most women can’t do that, there is truly no hope at all.&#8221;</p>
<p>What if it isn&#8217;t traditional female desire but female desire to be included in the men&#8217;s business? Divide and conquer. Men tell the women, but it&#8217;s because she&#8217;s -that- woman, and -that woman- changes every time&#8230;but the women still fall for it.</p>
<p>&#8220;Whatsoever you do to the least of my people, that you do unto me&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: bruce nahin</title>
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		<dc:creator>bruce nahin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 00:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Janis  it is very much appreciated...I do not seek cudos,  had enough of those in hollywierd to last a lifetime...the only approval I seek is from my bride of almost 27 years and my lord...I have been called frank and blunt...that to me is a form of integrity ...no bs.  what you see is what you get. I will continue to speak out for the injustice perpetrated by gender against yours and to promote ideas to rectify it...but like with the boxer discussion we may not always agree but you will know where I stand</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Janis  it is very much appreciated&#8230;I do not seek cudos,  had enough of those in hollywierd to last a lifetime&#8230;the only approval I seek is from my bride of almost 27 years and my lord&#8230;I have been called frank and blunt&#8230;that to me is a form of integrity &#8230;no bs.  what you see is what you get. I will continue to speak out for the injustice perpetrated by gender against yours and to promote ideas to rectify it&#8230;but like with the boxer discussion we may not always agree but you will know where I stand</p>
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		<title>By: Janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 00:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce, I am waiting.  I may actually vote despite my firm belief that it won&#039;t be counted.  (Although I think that the presidential election is the only one that&#039;s a complete farce; state/muni ones seem on the up-and-up relatively thus far.)

I&#039;ll be happy with Fiorina as well, but given Boxer&#039;s behavior of late, I&#039;ll be a lot happier with her.

BTW, I want to make clear that I have a great deal of respect for your opinions; after years of watching feminist blogs though, I&#039;m very wary of being too approving.  I&#039;ve seen it happen too many times that men who post on them get women &lt;i&gt;falling over themselves&lt;/i&gt; fawning on them saying, &quot;Oh but not YOUUUU!  Oh, if only more men were just like YOUUUUUU!&quot; whoever the male commenter may be.  Like I said, you&#039;re it in terms of men who don&#039;t make me roll my eyes or whip out the sniff tester, but I am very wary of assigning too much approbation.  Partly because of the fawning tendencies I&#039;ve seen in every other instance, and partly because a big part of me feels that the most important marker of a male feminist is that he doesn&#039;t need the applause of women to think correct thoughts.  It&#039;s a bit like being expected to applaud for someone who thinks 1+1=2.

But either way, I want to make clear that I respect your opinions on their own merits, because you are absolutely up front about them and because you never waver.  And because you don&#039;t sugarcoat things to make other people or yourself feel better vix. &quot;vote for women only because that&#039;s the only solution.&quot;  I see no other male commenter &lt;i&gt;anywhere&lt;/i&gt; with the guts to just dump that on the table on its own merits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce, I am waiting.  I may actually vote despite my firm belief that it won&#8217;t be counted.  (Although I think that the presidential election is the only one that&#8217;s a complete farce; state/muni ones seem on the up-and-up relatively thus far.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be happy with Fiorina as well, but given Boxer&#8217;s behavior of late, I&#8217;ll be a lot happier with her.</p>
<p>BTW, I want to make clear that I have a great deal of respect for your opinions; after years of watching feminist blogs though, I&#8217;m very wary of being too approving.  I&#8217;ve seen it happen too many times that men who post on them get women <i>falling over themselves</i> fawning on them saying, &#8220;Oh but not YOUUUU!  Oh, if only more men were just like YOUUUUUU!&#8221; whoever the male commenter may be.  Like I said, you&#8217;re it in terms of men who don&#8217;t make me roll my eyes or whip out the sniff tester, but I am very wary of assigning too much approbation.  Partly because of the fawning tendencies I&#8217;ve seen in every other instance, and partly because a big part of me feels that the most important marker of a male feminist is that he doesn&#8217;t need the applause of women to think correct thoughts.  It&#8217;s a bit like being expected to applaud for someone who thinks 1+1=2.</p>
<p>But either way, I want to make clear that I respect your opinions on their own merits, because you are absolutely up front about them and because you never waver.  And because you don&#8217;t sugarcoat things to make other people or yourself feel better vix. &#8220;vote for women only because that&#8217;s the only solution.&#8221;  I see no other male commenter <i>anywhere</i> with the guts to just dump that on the table on its own merits.</p>
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		<title>By: bruce nahin</title>
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		<dc:creator>bruce nahin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 19:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meg already is running ads here in lotus land- we can have a two bagger next year, a woman governor and a woman senator( Carly  or Barbara)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meg already is running ads here in lotus land- we can have a two bagger next year, a woman governor and a woman senator( Carly  or Barbara)</p>
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