Comments on: Telemarking Ploy: Using Clinton and Palin to Get a Response http://www.thenewagenda.net/2009/11/11/telemarking-ploy-using-clinton-and-palin-to-get-a-response/ Sat, 11 Feb 2012 00:38:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Janis http://www.thenewagenda.net/2009/11/11/telemarking-ploy-using-clinton-and-palin-to-get-a-response/comment-page-1/#comment-31528 Janis Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:12:26 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=15325#comment-31528 Optixmom, they ARE high-profile, but they are just not as useful as a Scaaaaary Woman with scaaaaary ladyparts as a boogeyman. It's like when I was little and Geraldine Ferraro was running on the ticket as VP. The exact same oily, scraping priests who would run one another DOWN for an opportunity to wring Teddy Kennedy's sweaty palms for a camera would rip her to shreds for her stance on abortion ... that was <i>identical to his stance</i>. They used her as a rallying point not because she was high-profile; compared to Teddy, she wasn't so much. But she was a WOMAN. I still remember one priest (not even part of our parish) giving a guest homily where he was flat-out attacking her. He was Irish -- he wasn't even American and that old coot was telling US how to vote. I could hear the steam whistling out of my mom's ears. That old bastard would probably have sold his mom for a photo op with anyone named Kennedy. People hate women. That's why they use Clinton's name to rally the second amendment supporters. Not because she's high-profile; lots of high-profile men are also anti-private-firearms-ownership. But since they haven't got vaginas, they don't frighten the horses as usefully. Optixmom, they ARE high-profile, but they are just not as useful as a Scaaaaary Woman with scaaaaary ladyparts as a boogeyman.

It’s like when I was little and Geraldine Ferraro was running on the ticket as VP. The exact same oily, scraping priests who would run one another DOWN for an opportunity to wring Teddy Kennedy’s sweaty palms for a camera would rip her to shreds for her stance on abortion … that was identical to his stance. They used her as a rallying point not because she was high-profile; compared to Teddy, she wasn’t so much. But she was a WOMAN.

I still remember one priest (not even part of our parish) giving a guest homily where he was flat-out attacking her. He was Irish — he wasn’t even American and that old coot was telling US how to vote. I could hear the steam whistling out of my mom’s ears. That old bastard would probably have sold his mom for a photo op with anyone named Kennedy.

People hate women. That’s why they use Clinton’s name to rally the second amendment supporters. Not because she’s high-profile; lots of high-profile men are also anti-private-firearms-ownership. But since they haven’t got vaginas, they don’t frighten the horses as usefully.

]]> By: Loralee http://www.thenewagenda.net/2009/11/11/telemarking-ploy-using-clinton-and-palin-to-get-a-response/comment-page-1/#comment-31518 Loralee Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:33:42 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=15325#comment-31518 Either I'm completely missing the boat or someone in the NRA is. That link refers to international transfer of weapons and international arms control. It has nothing to do with my gun rights unless it's about me selling them abroad. Either I’m completely missing the boat or someone in the NRA is. That link refers to international transfer of weapons and international arms control. It has nothing to do with my gun rights unless it’s about me selling them abroad.

]]> By: Optixmom http://www.thenewagenda.net/2009/11/11/telemarking-ploy-using-clinton-and-palin-to-get-a-response/comment-page-1/#comment-31508 Optixmom Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:09:26 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=15325#comment-31508 I was sent this link from an NRA member friend of mine. She called NRA headquarters to ask them why they mentioned Clinton's name in the message. Here is the link they gave to her: http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2009a/10/130573.htm I know that we have many peeps from both sides of the aisle so I will let you all form your own opinions on the weight of this link to the detriment of our second amendment rights. Janis you are right. There are sooooooooooooooooo many men that can do more damage to our second amendment rights, but since they may not be high profile, they don't rally the troops if their names are mentioned. For this reason, high profile women will have their names used for the purposes of marketing. I was sent this link from an NRA member friend of mine. She called NRA headquarters to ask them why they mentioned Clinton’s name in the message. Here is the link they gave to her:
http://www.state.gov/secretary.....130573.htm

I know that we have many peeps from both sides of the aisle so I will let you all form your own opinions on the weight of this link to the detriment of our second amendment rights.

Janis you are right. There are sooooooooooooooooo many men that can do more damage to our second amendment rights, but since they may not be high profile, they don’t rally the troops if their names are mentioned. For this reason, high profile women will have their names used for the purposes of marketing.

]]> By: Janis http://www.thenewagenda.net/2009/11/11/telemarking-ploy-using-clinton-and-palin-to-get-a-response/comment-page-1/#comment-31503 Janis Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:51:26 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=15325#comment-31503 I think the NRA doesn't even HAVE to have an honest discussion of Clinton's position on guns. I'm a gunowner myself, and I couldn't care less about her position on guns. She's freaking Secy of STATE, what does that have to do with anything about domestic gun policy? How many MEN in the house and senate have a lot more impact on firearm ownership, and why aren't THEY being bandied about as scary boogeymen? There is ZERO reason to single out Clinton, aside from the fact that as a woman, she makes a better Scary Boogeyman, which I resent like all hell. Despite being a gunowner and very much in favor of the second amendment, I have never joined the NRA. Garbage tactics like this are why. If they straightened their crap out about women and shut up about ANY policy issue other than second amendment rights, I might join up. Translation: I don't want to hear any junk about gay marriage or abortion from anyone in the NRA, and I'm not going to sit still for women politicians being singled out unfairly for their opinions on ANYTHING including the second amendment, when there are hundreds of anti-second-amendment MEN around who in a position to do a lot more damage to me and my rights. I think the NRA doesn’t even HAVE to have an honest discussion of Clinton’s position on guns. I’m a gunowner myself, and I couldn’t care less about her position on guns. She’s freaking Secy of STATE, what does that have to do with anything about domestic gun policy? How many MEN in the house and senate have a lot more impact on firearm ownership, and why aren’t THEY being bandied about as scary boogeymen?

There is ZERO reason to single out Clinton, aside from the fact that as a woman, she makes a better Scary Boogeyman, which I resent like all hell.

Despite being a gunowner and very much in favor of the second amendment, I have never joined the NRA. Garbage tactics like this are why. If they straightened their crap out about women and shut up about ANY policy issue other than second amendment rights, I might join up. Translation: I don’t want to hear any junk about gay marriage or abortion from anyone in the NRA, and I’m not going to sit still for women politicians being singled out unfairly for their opinions on ANYTHING including the second amendment, when there are hundreds of anti-second-amendment MEN around who in a position to do a lot more damage to me and my rights.

]]> By: Thia Lawson http://www.thenewagenda.net/2009/11/11/telemarking-ploy-using-clinton-and-palin-to-get-a-response/comment-page-1/#comment-31494 Thia Lawson Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:47:37 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=15325#comment-31494 Powerful women are scary! This is where people need to learn (on both sides) to cut the hysteria and calmly discuss facts. The NRA can have an honest discussion about Secretary Clinton's position on guns without dragging her out as the boogiewoman and the face of all things "evil and liberal." It's the members of these organizations who have to make them cut it out. Powerful women are scary! This is where people need to learn (on both sides) to cut the hysteria and calmly discuss facts. The NRA can have an honest discussion about Secretary Clinton’s position on guns without dragging her out as the boogiewoman and the face of all things “evil and liberal.” It’s the members of these organizations who have to make them cut it out.

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