Comments on: From Woman to Professional, a Step Forward

By: James Kessler

James Kessler — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 05:43:53 +0000

Have a problem with someone disagreeing with you, karen? Because what Bill was saying was hardly trollish..unless of course you’re looking for an excuse to trash what he said instead of listening to him and seeing if he was right.

By: marille

marille — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:41:09 +0000

LVL,
you see “demeaning attitude of the left” as partisan jargon.
i am a feminist for about 50 years and used to be a democrat in the US for nearly 20 years, before that either democrat or green party in Germany. only in 2008, I experienced as Hillary Clinton backer on a personal level the arrogance from the obama camp. remember the classification well educated people for obama, working class not educated for hillary and later on the stupid label to republicans.
this is text book how some democrats use personal destruction by denunciating the other side as non intelligent. I happen to be a MD PhD and worked for many years in ivy league institutions. I come from a background where investing in a girls education was not a given. I have experienced plenty of demeaning attitude by the left. just to let you know when I used this phrase it was not party jargon, but my experience. and of course I still have democrat friends
and there are still some democrats left i can vote for.

By: lorac

lorac — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:53:23 +0000

While I appreciate your point (and I also saw this show), I do want to mention that I have seen many, many conservatives on TV saying that there is sexism, but it is only against conservative women. They do not acknowledge the sexism they employed against Hillary over the years, or that democrats threw at Hillary in this election. I think it’s very worrisome – I’m very glad they’re getting on the anti-sexism bandwagon, VERY glad. But I really hope they start acknowledging sexism wherever it is, and not just when it is used against conservative women. They need to start reading THIS site!

By: Karen

Karen — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 14:17:47 +0000

Perhaps we should stop commenting here. I love the article, Jessica, and I want to share it with some people on LiveJournal. For the most part, I love the comments but I think everyone here is still sensitive from the real bigotry expressed by the troll Bill Pendergast. Let’s stay away from partisan dialogue, shall we?

I do not comment in many articles because I know my own response would be partisan. Sometimes, it is best to just be quiet.

By: LVL

LVL — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:20:28 +0000

marille,

Is the statement “smelled the demeaning attitude of the left ….” necessary to make your point?

I could get on my soapbox regarding the racist “birthers” of the right, the bigoted statements of Rush, Newt and others about White people creating the country and the condescending tone of the Republican senators in the Judge Sotomayor confirming hearings but I have not in the past because I thought we were all trying to be non-partisan.

If you promise to keep it that way, so can I.

By: marille

marille — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 04:33:30 +0000

Adrienne, I think the point of PROFESSIONAL is really important here.
Senator Boxer was trying to make her point how the carbon tax and energy efficiency would help so many poor people and that the NAACP is for it. Alford smelled the demeaning attitude of the left like.. we do something for you poor people… and he saw African Americans being referred to as the poor and not respected as accomplished people. that brought him to the incident with senator Boxer and former secretary of state Condelezza Rice. I am sure the left did not treat her with respect. so he as accomplished black man identifies with the disrespect this accomplished black woman had to endure (wasn’t she dean of Stanford university?). and Jessica indeed I think this is great that Alford has the sensitivity to see this disrespect a professional black woman is subjected to. I wonder would he have seen it with a white professional woman who was dissed by the opposing party for partisan reasons.
by the way senator Boxer is currently attacked, not as stupid or as sex symbol but as bully who spoils everything with her supposed insensitivity. she is really blamed that the energy bill in the last session did not pass. the boys can’t address the mighty interests working here, it has to be some wrong female attitude.
I happen to agree politically with Alford here and not with Boxer, who (Alford) is against the carbon tax, not only because of the international disadvantage, but because it indirectly supports nuclear energy and disadvantages domestic gas, which has much less of a carbon impact but still some residual. The nuclear energy lobby strongly supported the carbon tax and they also financed the Obama campaigns for a long time. So, I guess the nuclear industry lobby figured Obama would bring the carbon tax, which is a much stronger support for them than the many friendly words McCain had in favor of nuclear energy.

By: Adrienne in CA

Adrienne in CA — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 23:16:35 +0000

Why would a woman need to be a professional in order to be the equal of any man, professional or not?

Sounds more to me like Alford was trying to distinguish professional women from other types of women. Trash women.

Woman = Human = Man.

No qualifier needed.

*****A

By: Jessica

Jessica — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:47:28 +0000

LVL
I agree I think we all need to start taking off the party hats.Let’s address the issues directed to women as a whole.Not based on political ideology.

By: LVL

LVL — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:29:37 +0000

Claudy,

I found these statements not in keeping with the non-partison position TNA is trying to accomplish:

“bleeding heart liberal hypocrisy”

“Moreover, socialism — the kind on display from Obama — wants everyone ‘beholden’ to the man. ”

These types of statements divide us, not unify us.

Jessica, in strong agreement with you about the sexualization of powerful women – it is wrong and doesn’t happen to men.

O, an interesting catch. When Obama says things like that statement, he tends to be characterized as “confident,” “arrogant” or “cocky,” when women like HRC and Palin make similar statements, they tend to be characterized as the “b” world or unintelligent.

By: o

Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:52:44 +0000

Vastly Intelligent President to Lowest Rated News Anchor: I’m Not Into Newspapers

We were told that Governor Palin was unqualified to be Vice President of the United States because she didn’t provide specifics in answer to Katie Couric’s question: “What do you read?”

Well, check this out:

Katie Couric: No, I’m not going to read – I’m not going to put you through that. But it was it was a tough column. And I’m just curious, A, have you read it? And, B, what’s your response?

President Obama: I, you know, I don’t spend a lot of time reading columns, Katie. The fact is that I am confident in the work that we’re doing.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories.....8682.shtml