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		<title>By: Jessica Espinoza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica Espinoza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way you have no right, NO right to state that she has been reckless with er children,especially that of Trig.
You do not live in house,you do not know her health or her son&#039;s health.To state something like that only condemns every woman who has made the decision to birth a special needs child, or any child for that matter, and has had to continue working in order to provide for her family.
Only a woman can make that kind of decision.I don&#039;t care what pundit crap media whatever said about it.It is not our right to judge her on that.And it is dangerous to ALL women&#039;s rights to continue suggesting such things.

Sorry....that upset me.

Have a good one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way you have no right, NO right to state that she has been reckless with er children,especially that of Trig.<br />
You do not live in house,you do not know her health or her son&#8217;s health.To state something like that only condemns every woman who has made the decision to birth a special needs child, or any child for that matter, and has had to continue working in order to provide for her family.<br />
Only a woman can make that kind of decision.I don&#8217;t care what pundit crap media whatever said about it.It is not our right to judge her on that.And it is dangerous to ALL women&#8217;s rights to continue suggesting such things.</p>
<p>Sorry&#8230;.that upset me.</p>
<p>Have a good one.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica Espinoza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica Espinoza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James the purpose of a non-partisan organization for Women&#039;s Rights is to take our political bias out of the equation and stand against obvious attacks of sexism and misogyny on women of any kind.
There is absolutely NO reason for the attacks on her to the degree that she has had to endure in just the last 8-10 months.Period!
Much like that of Hillary it is an obvious political move  to suppress women to the role of being less then any man.
No matter your personal opinion on her politics or that of any female politician she in no way deserves what she has gotten.
She could have very easily go back to Alaska and we would never have heard a peep from her again.But the Left (sorry for those on the Left,no disrespect just truth here) but the left decided to continue their barrage of sexist and disgusting attacks against her and her children.Now the Right is getting in on the fun as well.
As a woman who has had to deal with sexism I say this has to stop somewhere.Or we will be but shells of what we dreamed we could be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James the purpose of a non-partisan organization for Women&#8217;s Rights is to take our political bias out of the equation and stand against obvious attacks of sexism and misogyny on women of any kind.<br />
There is absolutely NO reason for the attacks on her to the degree that she has had to endure in just the last 8-10 months.Period!<br />
Much like that of Hillary it is an obvious political move  to suppress women to the role of being less then any man.<br />
No matter your personal opinion on her politics or that of any female politician she in no way deserves what she has gotten.<br />
She could have very easily go back to Alaska and we would never have heard a peep from her again.But the Left (sorry for those on the Left,no disrespect just truth here) but the left decided to continue their barrage of sexist and disgusting attacks against her and her children.Now the Right is getting in on the fun as well.<br />
As a woman who has had to deal with sexism I say this has to stop somewhere.Or we will be but shells of what we dreamed we could be.</p>
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		<title>By: James (San Jose)</title>
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		<dc:creator>James (San Jose)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to interrupt the Palin love fest here but a little deconstruction is in order.

The Governor has only herself to blame for the mess she finds herself in.  She stepped onto the national stage hopeless unprepared for the role she campaigned for. In a very real way she volunteered for this abuse.  As Harry Truman pointed out &quot;if you can&#039;t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

No one made Palin flub her national debut, the infamous &quot;in what respect Charlie&quot; interview. No one forced her to be hopelessly unprepared for Katy Curic&#039;s softball question of reading choices. No one forced her inarticulate response of  &quot;Putin rearing his head&quot; in Alaska. No one made her unethically harass a state trooper and fire the troopers boss. No one authorized her $150,000 shopping spree with RNC money.

More to the point no one forced her to recite the numerous distortions, spins and outright lies she has uttered to both the Alaska and National public. It started with her fib about the bridge to nowhere and never really stopped. The woman can&#039;t even keep the story of whether she is a feminist or not straight.

You don&#039;t have join Andrew Sullivan&#039;s Sara Palin bashing club to be concerned about her behavior and her history with Trig. She was needlessly reckless with both her and Trig&#039;s health during the delivery of her youngest son. Having a downs child on an Alaska Air flight at 20,000 feet is not the best of options for a delivery.

It is that episode that best illuminates the true issue with Palin, that of temperament. It is a thread that runs through her life; her lack of discipline.  She seems to have a very hard time of keeping her colors within the lines. She seems to have a very hard time of separating the personal from the political.  These attributes should be a non-starter for anyone in politics male or female.

Palin&#039;s latest action only reinforces the contention that she is undisciplined.  In short she bailed on the people of Alaska for purely personal reasons. Yes there were distractions brought about by the media but they were of her own creation.  The post resignation fish boat interviews were willingly entered into by Ms Palin.  All she had to do stop the foolishness was say &quot;get out of here, shoo, you&#039;re scaring away the fish.&quot; 

Sara Palin had a choice post McCain.  She could have mended fences with Alaska politicians and done the hard grunt work of running the state.  She chose to shirk her executive responsibility. She angered her fellow Alaska Republicans by leaving the state and chasing national Republican opportunities.

It matters not a whit if Sara is a good or bad mother. If she really is that hideous Alaska Child Protective Services will handle the issue.  What is important is Palin&#039;s incredibly thin skin about her family.  She made the decision to drag them out in the lime light, to make them poster material for the National Republican Party.  If she really wanted to protect them she should have have left the entire lot back in Wasilla. Some one in the family or multiple family members could have taken care of the children.  As a matter of fact it would have been best for Sara to let her oddball secessionist hubby stay back on the frozen tundra with the children. Instead she brought the whole lot to the convention, even the idiot teen dad that impregnated Bristol.  She forced that yahoo to make nice for the cameras and then she complains when the whole farce blew up in her face. It is a microcosmic slice of how she operates; with no consideration of the long term consequences, totally undisciplined.  That is why she failed, not because the mean men of the media did her in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to interrupt the Palin love fest here but a little deconstruction is in order.</p>
<p>The Governor has only herself to blame for the mess she finds herself in.  She stepped onto the national stage hopeless unprepared for the role she campaigned for. In a very real way she volunteered for this abuse.  As Harry Truman pointed out &#8220;if you can&#8217;t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.</p>
<p>No one made Palin flub her national debut, the infamous &#8220;in what respect Charlie&#8221; interview. No one forced her to be hopelessly unprepared for Katy Curic&#8217;s softball question of reading choices. No one forced her inarticulate response of  &#8220;Putin rearing his head&#8221; in Alaska. No one made her unethically harass a state trooper and fire the troopers boss. No one authorized her $150,000 shopping spree with RNC money.</p>
<p>More to the point no one forced her to recite the numerous distortions, spins and outright lies she has uttered to both the Alaska and National public. It started with her fib about the bridge to nowhere and never really stopped. The woman can&#8217;t even keep the story of whether she is a feminist or not straight.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have join Andrew Sullivan&#8217;s Sara Palin bashing club to be concerned about her behavior and her history with Trig. She was needlessly reckless with both her and Trig&#8217;s health during the delivery of her youngest son. Having a downs child on an Alaska Air flight at 20,000 feet is not the best of options for a delivery.</p>
<p>It is that episode that best illuminates the true issue with Palin, that of temperament. It is a thread that runs through her life; her lack of discipline.  She seems to have a very hard time of keeping her colors within the lines. She seems to have a very hard time of separating the personal from the political.  These attributes should be a non-starter for anyone in politics male or female.</p>
<p>Palin&#8217;s latest action only reinforces the contention that she is undisciplined.  In short she bailed on the people of Alaska for purely personal reasons. Yes there were distractions brought about by the media but they were of her own creation.  The post resignation fish boat interviews were willingly entered into by Ms Palin.  All she had to do stop the foolishness was say &#8220;get out of here, shoo, you&#8217;re scaring away the fish.&#8221; </p>
<p>Sara Palin had a choice post McCain.  She could have mended fences with Alaska politicians and done the hard grunt work of running the state.  She chose to shirk her executive responsibility. She angered her fellow Alaska Republicans by leaving the state and chasing national Republican opportunities.</p>
<p>It matters not a whit if Sara is a good or bad mother. If she really is that hideous Alaska Child Protective Services will handle the issue.  What is important is Palin&#8217;s incredibly thin skin about her family.  She made the decision to drag them out in the lime light, to make them poster material for the National Republican Party.  If she really wanted to protect them she should have have left the entire lot back in Wasilla. Some one in the family or multiple family members could have taken care of the children.  As a matter of fact it would have been best for Sara to let her oddball secessionist hubby stay back on the frozen tundra with the children. Instead she brought the whole lot to the convention, even the idiot teen dad that impregnated Bristol.  She forced that yahoo to make nice for the cameras and then she complains when the whole farce blew up in her face. It is a microcosmic slice of how she operates; with no consideration of the long term consequences, totally undisciplined.  That is why she failed, not because the mean men of the media did her in.</p>
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		<title>By: Palin: The Bad Mother : NO QUARTER</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: goesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>goesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She is such a threat!! These attacks are ever so slowly working to her advantage but I fail to understand why various disability groups have not come forth in outrage when such national, negative attacks persist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She is such a threat!! These attacks are ever so slowly working to her advantage but I fail to understand why various disability groups have not come forth in outrage when such national, negative attacks persist.</p>
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		<title>By: Briar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Briar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with those who said Palin gave perfectly good reasons for her resignation.  Of course, having given several good reasons, she thereby supplied ammunition for those determined to read them as negatively as possible, which they proceded to do.  Unfortunately that is how politics works in our so-called &quot;democracies&quot;, where winning arguments, or appearing to, counts for more than honesty, reason and integrity.  As for this odd fixation on her Downs Syndrome child, I think that reveals the physically and meantally healthy person&#039;s uneasiness when faced with disability far more than anything else.  Quinn, like so many other glossy middle class professionals, would really like little Trig locked away out of sight so she needn&#039;t avert her eyes from him.  And as his mother (and so suspect anyway), Palin would be required to be equally invisible and absent.  You don&#039;t have to be a national figure to be aware of the invisiblity demand where disability is concerned: lots of ordinary parents feel it too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with those who said Palin gave perfectly good reasons for her resignation.  Of course, having given several good reasons, she thereby supplied ammunition for those determined to read them as negatively as possible, which they proceded to do.  Unfortunately that is how politics works in our so-called &#8220;democracies&#8221;, where winning arguments, or appearing to, counts for more than honesty, reason and integrity.  As for this odd fixation on her Downs Syndrome child, I think that reveals the physically and meantally healthy person&#8217;s uneasiness when faced with disability far more than anything else.  Quinn, like so many other glossy middle class professionals, would really like little Trig locked away out of sight so she needn&#8217;t avert her eyes from him.  And as his mother (and so suspect anyway), Palin would be required to be equally invisible and absent.  You don&#8217;t have to be a national figure to be aware of the invisiblity demand where disability is concerned: lots of ordinary parents feel it too.</p>
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		<title>By: marille</title>
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		<dc:creator>marille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 04:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A truely interesting discussion.
First, regarding the whining and how to  react. I think Sarah Palin had a big learning curve between the earlier and later statement. the first statement was not malignant but rather cocky  in the similar way as Hillary Clinton has suggested &quot;I can take the heat&quot;. 
Second, I find Sarah Palin genuine and  find it easy to trust her in contrast to many other politicians. Compared to the ever changing Obama positions I found Hillary Clinton&#039;s as well as Sarah Palin&#039;s statements very consistent. i agree with a lot of her statements, but am still watching on some where I have  not seen any in depth interviews.
nevertheless there  are too many reasons to vote for her, if she were running. like those: if we want female representation we need to vote for females even we do not agree with all positions. or if we want to destroy too much power of the government we have to not vote for the incumbent, or she represents many of my values, is very capable and does not hide her agenda. I love the small government, fiscal responsibility, anti corruption platform. I like to get Alaskan gas instead of new powerplants until fully renewable resources are available. to me Obama is in bed with the nuclear power industry just as most republicans are. 
I may not agree with her position on abortion, although I do not know enough details at this time. I agree with her that we have too many abortions. I am completely against judicial ways to stop abortions or taking birth control like the pill after away (and i don&#039;t know her exact position here). but i think we need to ask why so many young women get pregnant against their intentions. why is birth control not working well? it is simply not true that abortions are the result of abstinence only politics. to include abstinence in education together with birth control is what Sarah Palin advocated and I am fine with her on that. But I think we need to counteract the constant push that everybody has to be sexy all the times. even 1. and 2nd graders in public school have learned that one should be sexy or you are out. I am so glad I grew up in a boarding school with nuns and saw firsthand that there is more to life than sex and guys. I like to  see that our young people get the space to  experience the many resources for fun there are and are not locked into this early focus on sex as the top ranking source of fun. there is a group &quot;commercial free childhood&quot;, really worth looking up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A truely interesting discussion.<br />
First, regarding the whining and how to  react. I think Sarah Palin had a big learning curve between the earlier and later statement. the first statement was not malignant but rather cocky  in the similar way as Hillary Clinton has suggested &#8220;I can take the heat&#8221;.<br />
Second, I find Sarah Palin genuine and  find it easy to trust her in contrast to many other politicians. Compared to the ever changing Obama positions I found Hillary Clinton&#8217;s as well as Sarah Palin&#8217;s statements very consistent. i agree with a lot of her statements, but am still watching on some where I have  not seen any in depth interviews.<br />
nevertheless there  are too many reasons to vote for her, if she were running. like those: if we want female representation we need to vote for females even we do not agree with all positions. or if we want to destroy too much power of the government we have to not vote for the incumbent, or she represents many of my values, is very capable and does not hide her agenda. I love the small government, fiscal responsibility, anti corruption platform. I like to get Alaskan gas instead of new powerplants until fully renewable resources are available. to me Obama is in bed with the nuclear power industry just as most republicans are.<br />
I may not agree with her position on abortion, although I do not know enough details at this time. I agree with her that we have too many abortions. I am completely against judicial ways to stop abortions or taking birth control like the pill after away (and i don&#8217;t know her exact position here). but i think we need to ask why so many young women get pregnant against their intentions. why is birth control not working well? it is simply not true that abortions are the result of abstinence only politics. to include abstinence in education together with birth control is what Sarah Palin advocated and I am fine with her on that. But I think we need to counteract the constant push that everybody has to be sexy all the times. even 1. and 2nd graders in public school have learned that one should be sexy or you are out. I am so glad I grew up in a boarding school with nuns and saw firsthand that there is more to life than sex and guys. I like to  see that our young people get the space to  experience the many resources for fun there are and are not locked into this early focus on sex as the top ranking source of fun. there is a group &#8220;commercial free childhood&#8221;, really worth looking up.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne-Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne-Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks LVL.   For her sake and the sake of advancing the case for women in politics, I hope she persists until something more than  a cartoonish understanding of her emerges.  After all, she is a multi-faceted individual with gifts and drawbacks.  Her future political power will come from the people, if they want to give it to her once they get to know her better.

My opinion is that she&#039;s not a saint, she&#039;s not the devil, and there&#039;s way too much fear out there about her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks LVL.   For her sake and the sake of advancing the case for women in politics, I hope she persists until something more than  a cartoonish understanding of her emerges.  After all, she is a multi-faceted individual with gifts and drawbacks.  Her future political power will come from the people, if they want to give it to her once they get to know her better.</p>
<p>My opinion is that she&#8217;s not a saint, she&#8217;s not the devil, and there&#8217;s way too much fear out there about her.</p>
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		<title>By: LVL</title>
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		<dc:creator>LVL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anne-Marie,

We are probably going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I don&#039;t dislike Palin, I simply do not trust her yet. In a lot of ways, any women who manages four jobs (professional, mother, spouse and home manager) is a role model for women&#039;s rights. A women&#039;s rights advocate is someone, particularly if they hold a public office, that has spoken forcefully on the issue and has an established record of supporting policies, programs and legislation that advances women in all walks of life. This advocacy describes HRC, not Palin. 

Also, while it is distant in our memory, HRC has been ridiculed for nearly two decades, ever since Bill broke his wedding vows and she attempted to implement health care reform.  Palin has suffered the heat for 8 to 10 months - and it has been intense - but I still believe it pales in consideration to the sexist treatment HRC has suffered for such a long time.

I respect your opinion and hope the best for Palin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne-Marie,</p>
<p>We are probably going to have to agree to disagree on this one. I don&#8217;t dislike Palin, I simply do not trust her yet. In a lot of ways, any women who manages four jobs (professional, mother, spouse and home manager) is a role model for women&#8217;s rights. A women&#8217;s rights advocate is someone, particularly if they hold a public office, that has spoken forcefully on the issue and has an established record of supporting policies, programs and legislation that advances women in all walks of life. This advocacy describes HRC, not Palin. </p>
<p>Also, while it is distant in our memory, HRC has been ridiculed for nearly two decades, ever since Bill broke his wedding vows and she attempted to implement health care reform.  Palin has suffered the heat for 8 to 10 months &#8211; and it has been intense &#8211; but I still believe it pales in consideration to the sexist treatment HRC has suffered for such a long time.</p>
<p>I respect your opinion and hope the best for Palin.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne-Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne-Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LVL, 

Thanks for putting up those two statements. 

I still think your original impression as you stated it, that Palin was “pretty critical of HRC when she complained of media bias and sexism.&quot; is in my eyes not justified.  She talked about it once, and I agree she was being unsympathetic to Hillary, and I feel her message to Hillary and other female politicians was that ideally you gotta be tough and don&#039;t respond and don&#039;t let it get to you.

In her latter statement, as I understand it, she was trying to distinguish between political potshots that are part of the game, and using these potshots as a campaign to destroy her ability to do her job.  

There truly is a difference in scale and length of attacks and depth and indecency of attacks on her and on Hillary.  I don&#039;t think there has been any modern political figure, even George Bush that has had her appearance, intelligence, family, beliefs and everything eles about her as intensely maligned as much as Sarah Palin has.  We cannot ignore that. And just like Hillary did, she is also complaining about it.  It&#039;s only human, don&#039;t you think?!  I mean if you believed she was being too critical of Hillary, then I hope you won&#039;t be too critical of her.  

And the ethics complaints have been used to inhibit her from carrying out her responsibilities as Governor.  

 I view her as a long-term women&#039;s rights advocate not as someone who talks about rights but someone who models what it means to have rights as a woman, and to use those rights to pursue whatever life goals she sets for herself and do it her way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LVL, </p>
<p>Thanks for putting up those two statements. </p>
<p>I still think your original impression as you stated it, that Palin was “pretty critical of HRC when she complained of media bias and sexism.&#8221; is in my eyes not justified.  She talked about it once, and I agree she was being unsympathetic to Hillary, and I feel her message to Hillary and other female politicians was that ideally you gotta be tough and don&#8217;t respond and don&#8217;t let it get to you.</p>
<p>In her latter statement, as I understand it, she was trying to distinguish between political potshots that are part of the game, and using these potshots as a campaign to destroy her ability to do her job.  </p>
<p>There truly is a difference in scale and length of attacks and depth and indecency of attacks on her and on Hillary.  I don&#8217;t think there has been any modern political figure, even George Bush that has had her appearance, intelligence, family, beliefs and everything eles about her as intensely maligned as much as Sarah Palin has.  We cannot ignore that. And just like Hillary did, she is also complaining about it.  It&#8217;s only human, don&#8217;t you think?!  I mean if you believed she was being too critical of Hillary, then I hope you won&#8217;t be too critical of her.  </p>
<p>And the ethics complaints have been used to inhibit her from carrying out her responsibilities as Governor.  </p>
<p> I view her as a long-term women&#8217;s rights advocate not as someone who talks about rights but someone who models what it means to have rights as a woman, and to use those rights to pursue whatever life goals she sets for herself and do it her way.</p>
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