Comments on: Women Stride Toward Governors’ Mansions: Where We Can Make A Difference in 2010 http://www.thenewagenda.net/2009/05/15/women-stride-toward-governors-mansions-where-we-can-make-a-difference-in-2010/ Sat, 11 Feb 2012 00:38:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Janis http://www.thenewagenda.net/2009/05/15/women-stride-toward-governors-mansions-where-we-can-make-a-difference-in-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-16661 Janis Wed, 20 May 2009 21:08:25 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=9299#comment-16661 And don't give me any garbage about how the parties involve ideological differences and different beliefs. Clearly, they don't anymore. At all. Your sparkly pink fluffball of love Obama voted in favor of the Iraq war every chance he got, voted with the Bush-Cheney energy bill, and voted to shove obscene amounts of money at the idiots who have pretty much tanked an entire planet's financial stability. AND they are all against gay marriage, and Obama doesn't sound like a defender of choice, either. So do not pull that junk with me. I will blindly vote for the XX chromosomes, and you feel free to blindly vote for the guy in the donkey suit. Only at least I know what I'm getting, whereas you seem to be fooled by a whole lot of elephants in donkey jackets. And don’t give me any garbage about how the parties involve ideological differences and different beliefs. Clearly, they don’t anymore. At all. Your sparkly pink fluffball of love Obama voted in favor of the Iraq war every chance he got, voted with the Bush-Cheney energy bill, and voted to shove obscene amounts of money at the idiots who have pretty much tanked an entire planet’s financial stability.

AND they are all against gay marriage, and Obama doesn’t sound like a defender of choice, either. So do not pull that junk with me.

I will blindly vote for the XX chromosomes, and you feel free to blindly vote for the guy in the donkey suit. Only at least I know what I’m getting, whereas you seem to be fooled by a whole lot of elephants in donkey jackets.

]]> By: Janis http://www.thenewagenda.net/2009/05/15/women-stride-toward-governors-mansions-where-we-can-make-a-difference-in-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-16660 Janis Wed, 20 May 2009 21:05:05 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=9299#comment-16660 I voted Clinton AND Palin, child. And I made the right choice. Period. And don't you DARE get on my ass about blind voting, since that's precisely what you're extolling -- you are free to BLINDLY choose the Democrat, and I'm free to BLINDLY chose the woman. PERIOD. I voted Clinton AND Palin, child. And I made the right choice. Period.

And don’t you DARE get on my ass about blind voting, since that’s precisely what you’re extolling — you are free to BLINDLY choose the Democrat, and I’m free to BLINDLY chose the woman. PERIOD.

]]> By: gale http://www.thenewagenda.net/2009/05/15/women-stride-toward-governors-mansions-where-we-can-make-a-difference-in-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-16504 gale Sun, 17 May 2009 15:54:58 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=9299#comment-16504 Hillary and Obama were both against gay marriage--there were no viable options who supported it, unfortunately. Gay marriage isn't the only issue I care about. But in this race there are several viable options who support it--it is far easier for Democrats to support gay marriage on the state level than the national level--and I will be taking advantage of that fact and supporting one of them. Hillary and Obama were both against gay marriage–there were no viable options who supported it, unfortunately.

Gay marriage isn’t the only issue I care about. But in this race there are several viable options who support it–it is far easier for Democrats to support gay marriage on the state level than the national level–and I will be taking advantage of that fact and supporting one of them.

]]> By: Karen http://www.thenewagenda.net/2009/05/15/women-stride-toward-governors-mansions-where-we-can-make-a-difference-in-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-16499 Karen Sun, 17 May 2009 13:53:27 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=9299#comment-16499 Both Republicans and Democrats were against gay marriage. I don't know much about the Libertarians or Greens on that matter. Both Republicans and Democrats were against gay marriage. I don’t know much about the Libertarians or Greens on that matter.

]]> By: Ali http://www.thenewagenda.net/2009/05/15/women-stride-toward-governors-mansions-where-we-can-make-a-difference-in-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-16497 Ali Sun, 17 May 2009 13:30:07 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=9299#comment-16497 Gale, I'm just curious who you voted for in regard to the POTUS position. Was it someone who was for or against gay marriage? Gale,

I’m just curious who you voted for in regard to the POTUS position. Was it someone who was for or against gay marriage?

]]> By: gale http://www.thenewagenda.net/2009/05/15/women-stride-toward-governors-mansions-where-we-can-make-a-difference-in-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-16444 gale Sat, 16 May 2009 14:36:44 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=9299#comment-16444 The fact that gay people are not allowed to get married is a form of bigotry. Bigotry infects all of society. Gay people not being allowed to get married--not being allowed to fully enter into society--affects all of society in a negative way. Interracial marriage used to be illegal. That was pretty terrible thing for society, not just for black people and white people who wanted to get married but couldn't. A debate about the validity of marriage as an institution is a different matter. The point is that we have marriage as an important institution, and I'm not going to vote for someone for governor who wants to randomly exclude an entire segment of society from that institution. The fact that gay people are not allowed to get married is a form of bigotry. Bigotry infects all of society. Gay people not being allowed to get married–not being allowed to fully enter into society–affects all of society in a negative way. Interracial marriage used to be illegal. That was pretty terrible thing for society, not just for black people and white people who wanted to get married but couldn’t.

A debate about the validity of marriage as an institution is a different matter. The point is that we have marriage as an important institution, and I’m not going to vote for someone for governor who wants to randomly exclude an entire segment of society from that institution.

]]> By: Karen http://www.thenewagenda.net/2009/05/15/women-stride-toward-governors-mansions-where-we-can-make-a-difference-in-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-16440 Karen Sat, 16 May 2009 12:51:01 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=9299#comment-16440 Well, gays are the only people who can't marry, so I'd say "yes, it only affects gays." People who sympathize with them are affected indirectly but not to the extent as gays. Sexism and racism are more broad and far-reaching terms. A policy or belief that is simply anti-marriage would be more far-reaching and would affect homosexuals and heterosexuals equally. I don't want to argue about gay marriage because my attitude toward marriage itself is entirely different from both mainstream liberals and mainstream conservatives. I'd rather just talk about validity of marriage itself. Well, gays are the only people who can’t marry, so I’d say “yes, it only affects gays.” People who sympathize with them are affected indirectly but not to the extent as gays. Sexism and racism are more broad and far-reaching terms. A policy or belief that is simply anti-marriage would be more far-reaching and would affect homosexuals and heterosexuals equally. I don’t want to argue about gay marriage because my attitude toward marriage itself is entirely different from both mainstream liberals and mainstream conservatives. I’d rather just talk about validity of marriage itself.

]]> By: gale http://www.thenewagenda.net/2009/05/15/women-stride-toward-governors-mansions-where-we-can-make-a-difference-in-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-16431 gale Sat, 16 May 2009 09:01:12 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=9299#comment-16431 Gay marriage only affects gays? So, by that logic, sexism only affects women? Jim Crow laws only affected black people? Anti-semitism only affects Jews? Everyone suffers when prejudice is directed against a certain segment of society. All of society suffers when women are discriminated against, when black people are discriminated against, etc. It affects me to see my gay friends made to feel like second-class citizens, and if I have the opportunity to vote for a governor who might end that, I am going to. Perhaps if I believed that the other candidates would be terrible for CA's economy, things would be different. But I see no evidence that Meg Whitman would be better for the economy than the people she is currently running against. Gay marriage only affects gays? So, by that logic, sexism only affects women? Jim Crow laws only affected black people? Anti-semitism only affects Jews?

Everyone suffers when prejudice is directed against a certain segment of society. All of society suffers when women are discriminated against, when black people are discriminated against, etc. It affects me to see my gay friends made to feel like second-class citizens, and if I have the opportunity to vote for a governor who might end that, I am going to.

Perhaps if I believed that the other candidates would be terrible for CA’s economy, things would be different. But I see no evidence that Meg Whitman would be better for the economy than the people she is currently running against.

]]> By: Karen http://www.thenewagenda.net/2009/05/15/women-stride-toward-governors-mansions-where-we-can-make-a-difference-in-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-16408 Karen Sat, 16 May 2009 00:04:56 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=9299#comment-16408 Gale, wouldn't be better to vote for the candidate who is best for the economy and for solving budgets? Gay marriage affects only gays; the economy affects everyone. Furthermore, poverty leads to heightened rates of violence among other things... Gale, wouldn’t be better to vote for the candidate who is best for the economy and for solving budgets? Gay marriage affects only gays; the economy affects everyone. Furthermore, poverty leads to heightened rates of violence among other things…

]]> By: gale http://www.thenewagenda.net/2009/05/15/women-stride-toward-governors-mansions-where-we-can-make-a-difference-in-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-16405 gale Fri, 15 May 2009 22:49:40 +0000 http://thenewagenda.net/?p=9299#comment-16405 I'm a Californian--Meg Whitman is opposed to gay marriage. There are other candidates in the race (or who are expected to enter the race) who are ardent supporters of marriage equality. I will be voting for one of them, as will many progressives. I’m a Californian–Meg Whitman is opposed to gay marriage. There are other candidates in the race (or who are expected to enter the race) who are ardent supporters of marriage equality. I will be voting for one of them, as will many progressives.

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