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		<title>By: Kiuku</title>
		<link>http://www.thenewagenda.net/2009/04/09/the-patriarchy-enablers/comment-page-2/#comment-14196</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiuku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, Tuc. We are all in this together. Until we realize that, things won&#039;t get better. And it isn&#039;t just us we are fighting for. It is the future of our world, so that we don&#039;t have to think about survival, as individuals. To concern ourselves with survival, as women are forced to, is not to have any life at all. And as a species we have to work toward being able to truly reach the pinnacle of human greatness. The men have kept humanity in a social and scientific dark age rife with pain and suffering. They will destroy everything. 

But my rights, as a woman in the Patriarchy..my right to work. My right to not be owned by a man. My right to my physical safety, integrity, privacy. All of these rights are women&#039;s rights and I won&#039;t have them without women&#039;s rights. I may not be able to stop sexism in another woman, but I can fight for her rights. In doing so, I fight for my own. 

We are all broken, so we need to forgive eachother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Tuc. We are all in this together. Until we realize that, things won&#8217;t get better. And it isn&#8217;t just us we are fighting for. It is the future of our world, so that we don&#8217;t have to think about survival, as individuals. To concern ourselves with survival, as women are forced to, is not to have any life at all. And as a species we have to work toward being able to truly reach the pinnacle of human greatness. The men have kept humanity in a social and scientific dark age rife with pain and suffering. They will destroy everything. </p>
<p>But my rights, as a woman in the Patriarchy..my right to work. My right to not be owned by a man. My right to my physical safety, integrity, privacy. All of these rights are women&#8217;s rights and I won&#8217;t have them without women&#8217;s rights. I may not be able to stop sexism in another woman, but I can fight for her rights. In doing so, I fight for my own. </p>
<p>We are all broken, so we need to forgive eachother.</p>
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		<title>By: tucsonlynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>tucsonlynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janis! 
Nice to read you again.
And of course you are right, we are our own wost enemies, but isn&#039;t it time to do something about that?
 If we take some of these ideas and help the next generation it must get better.  It must.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janis!<br />
Nice to read you again.<br />
And of course you are right, we are our own wost enemies, but isn&#8217;t it time to do something about that?<br />
 If we take some of these ideas and help the next generation it must get better.  It must.</p>
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		<title>By: Janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THANK YOU.  Seriously, I&#039;m gratified -- it&#039;s amazing how stomped on any experssion of utter disgust over anything feminist is, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THANK YOU.  Seriously, I&#8217;m gratified &#8212; it&#8217;s amazing how stomped on any experssion of utter disgust over anything feminist is, really.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sis, I am just as shocked as you are that the most gullible people are also the people with the best technological know-how to avoid being gullible.

Janis, you&#039;re not the only woman dealing with these issues about womanhood.  It&#039;s an issue I have been grappling with ever since I was twelve, and I am still not over it.  We all have to find our own ways to cope with it.   2008 has been a very disillusioning year with the emergence of misogynistic women, but it has also been a very inspiring year with the emergence of strongly pro-woman women who are willing to set aside their differences for the common good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sis, I am just as shocked as you are that the most gullible people are also the people with the best technological know-how to avoid being gullible.</p>
<p>Janis, you&#8217;re not the only woman dealing with these issues about womanhood.  It&#8217;s an issue I have been grappling with ever since I was twelve, and I am still not over it.  We all have to find our own ways to cope with it.   2008 has been a very disillusioning year with the emergence of misogynistic women, but it has also been a very inspiring year with the emergence of strongly pro-woman women who are willing to set aside their differences for the common good.</p>
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		<title>By: Janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and now that I&#039;ve realized that these comments are moderated, I&#039;m quite sure that the one I just left isn&#039;t going to show up.

*goes off and gets some coffee and cookies and forgets about the whole thing once more*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and now that I&#8217;ve realized that these comments are moderated, I&#8217;m quite sure that the one I just left isn&#8217;t going to show up.</p>
<p>*goes off and gets some coffee and cookies and forgets about the whole thing once more*</p>
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		<title>By: Janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honetly, after several long months of keeping myself in deliberate ignorance (and which will continue for as long as I&#039;m alive) ... do you know what my conclusion to this was?

The universe consists of two kinds of people: the ones I share DNA with, and the rest of you slap-fighting monkeys.  I&#039;m really serious here.  That&#039;s the lesson I learned.  I have no intention of being stupid enough to fight for women&#039;s rights, despite being one.  I&#039;mm do my best to avoid the crap slung at women as a class, but other than that, not a chance I&#039;m lifting a finger for anyone but me and my mom.

Whoops, what was that you said?  I&#039;m just doing what &quot;the patriarchy&quot; wants?  I&#039;ve learned one thing from this election cycle: if you try to help women by actually providing them with the junk they&#039;re constantly whining they want -- comprehensive sex education, outspoken support of women&#039;s rights as human rights -- check your back for a knife in a few years, and it&#039;s one of those people who wanted to help who&#039;ll have put it there.

Is it &quot;the patriarchy?&quot;  Is it estrogen?  Is it socialization?  Who cares?  I&#039;m already watching my back for male-thrown knives, and I&#039;ve picked more than a few of them out of my ribcage in my time.  But if I open my mouth obviously in favor of women, the barrage of daggers that will fly at me &lt;i&gt;from women&lt;/i&gt; just do not make it worth my while.  Supporting women is political suicide, because they&#039;ll turn on you in a heartbeat.

Sorry.  I&#039;d like to not say it, but that&#039;s the lesson I took away from this.  I&#039;ll do for myself, and my mom.  the rest of you are on your own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honetly, after several long months of keeping myself in deliberate ignorance (and which will continue for as long as I&#8217;m alive) &#8230; do you know what my conclusion to this was?</p>
<p>The universe consists of two kinds of people: the ones I share DNA with, and the rest of you slap-fighting monkeys.  I&#8217;m really serious here.  That&#8217;s the lesson I learned.  I have no intention of being stupid enough to fight for women&#8217;s rights, despite being one.  I&#8217;mm do my best to avoid the crap slung at women as a class, but other than that, not a chance I&#8217;m lifting a finger for anyone but me and my mom.</p>
<p>Whoops, what was that you said?  I&#8217;m just doing what &#8220;the patriarchy&#8221; wants?  I&#8217;ve learned one thing from this election cycle: if you try to help women by actually providing them with the junk they&#8217;re constantly whining they want &#8212; comprehensive sex education, outspoken support of women&#8217;s rights as human rights &#8212; check your back for a knife in a few years, and it&#8217;s one of those people who wanted to help who&#8217;ll have put it there.</p>
<p>Is it &#8220;the patriarchy?&#8221;  Is it estrogen?  Is it socialization?  Who cares?  I&#8217;m already watching my back for male-thrown knives, and I&#8217;ve picked more than a few of them out of my ribcage in my time.  But if I open my mouth obviously in favor of women, the barrage of daggers that will fly at me <i>from women</i> just do not make it worth my while.  Supporting women is political suicide, because they&#8217;ll turn on you in a heartbeat.</p>
<p>Sorry.  I&#8217;d like to not say it, but that&#8217;s the lesson I took away from this.  I&#8217;ll do for myself, and my mom.  the rest of you are on your own.</p>
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		<title>By: Sis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t mean converse, I mean, that it is there, indelibly, until forever. Google. archives your underwear. 

People, the tech generation, actually believe what is said or printed in the news is fact, true, was said, or done. I&#039;m continually knocked back by this, but especially so with this generation that is so tech savvy. They have no clue the manipulation that is done, that the 20 second edit came from a 40 minutes interview, that you need to see it complete, with out takes, body language, the whole deal, before you have ANYTHING. 

This naivete, and the working of it, this is what got Obama in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mean converse, I mean, that it is there, indelibly, until forever. Google. archives your underwear. </p>
<p>People, the tech generation, actually believe what is said or printed in the news is fact, true, was said, or done. I&#8217;m continually knocked back by this, but especially so with this generation that is so tech savvy. They have no clue the manipulation that is done, that the 20 second edit came from a 40 minutes interview, that you need to see it complete, with out takes, body language, the whole deal, before you have ANYTHING. </p>
<p>This naivete, and the working of it, this is what got Obama in.</p>
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		<title>By: Ali</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Facebook is a weird way to converse as it is....</description>
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		<title>By: Sis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama and his people counted on the fact that most Americans use media (and I mean tech media not just news) but are completely ignorant of how it actually works. Even one of his own got caught on that; witness writer boy and his Facebook gaffe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama and his people counted on the fact that most Americans use media (and I mean tech media not just news) but are completely ignorant of how it actually works. Even one of his own got caught on that; witness writer boy and his Facebook gaffe.</p>
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		<title>By: gxm17</title>
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		<dc:creator>gxm17</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did not support Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin because I wanted to see a woman in office. I supported them because they were the best candidates.

It&#039;s so disheartening to see TNA inundated by comments clinging to, and disseminating, sexist lies about Palin.

Anyone with a modicum of insight can see that Palin is very bright… and Obama can&#039;t construct a sentence without a teleprompter.

I&#039;m with Bes, I&#039;m sick and tired of narrow-minded people saying that Sarah Palin is uninformed. Either they just aren&#039;t paying attention or they are way too comfortable with sexist standards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not support Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin because I wanted to see a woman in office. I supported them because they were the best candidates.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s so disheartening to see TNA inundated by comments clinging to, and disseminating, sexist lies about Palin.</p>
<p>Anyone with a modicum of insight can see that Palin is very bright… and Obama can&#8217;t construct a sentence without a teleprompter.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with Bes, I&#8217;m sick and tired of narrow-minded people saying that Sarah Palin is uninformed. Either they just aren&#8217;t paying attention or they are way too comfortable with sexist standards.</p>
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