Comments on: Caroline Kennedy is a lazy, rich socialite who gave up her career to be a mommy, and it’s not sexist at all to make note of this fact

By: Janis

Janis — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:50:46 +0000

ZOMG, WHO GIVES A DAMN about some chick’s wrinkles? Thank dawg for two things:

1) this whole discussion is a year old, and
2) we’ve since found more important things to talk about.

By: Gwyneth

Gwyneth — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:45:48 +0000

I am going to stick up for Caroline. Yes, she is wrinkled as an old paper lunch bag. She has very blue eyes and fair Irish skin, not the genes of Jackie, who held up better. Jackie had plastic surgery along the way, but Caroline has had, from the look of things, none. She did inherit the jawline, cheekbones and neck from Jackie that save her from total desolation. It’s her skin type that’s the problem. A minor rhinoplasty and a chemical peel would take years off. Also, may I remind you all: It is a miracle that she is not a basket case, period. Growing up under the eagle eye of a perfectionist, avaricious, controlling mother, always being in the public eye, suffering the blighted legacy of a murdered iconic father, losing her beloved brother….money does not erase all of the emotional pathos of the hidden inner Caroline. I would be a basket case just from the loss of JFK Jr alone. Caroline, with all her money, probably wishes she was someone else. Did you see the remake of Grey Gardens with Lange, Barrymore, and Jean Tripplehorn as Jackie O? Little Edie accuses Jackie of usurping what should have been hers: First Ladyship with dead Joe Jr. Jackie replies ‘I wish it had been you’.

By: fsteele

fsteele — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:02:11 +0000

Octagalore,

I brought up the issue of the SHAPE of CK’s wrinkles, and her habitual facial expression, with many qualifiers and modifiers and disclaimers, which seem to have been ignored. So rather than repeat those disclaimers, I’ve backed off from the subject.

By: Octogalore

Octogalore — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:15:22 +0000

Joining those who are surprised at the discussion of wrinkles here. There are a ton of wrinkly male pols whose facial aging is never mentioned, so it’s very odd to see this on a feminist site.

Many politicians — both male (Biden, others) and female (Pelosi, others) avail themselves of injections or surgery to look younger. Projecting sexist/ageist standards like “too many wrinkles means emotionally damaged” hurts women, in that it ups the pressure on us to resort to injections/surgery as we age. When in fact, there’s nothing in botox or collagen that reverses emotional damage. Nor does an outdoor lifestyle or less pigment create it. Looking at CK’s male relatives, her family isn’t blessed with slow-aging skin.

There are many other legitimate reasons to doubt CK’s appropriateness as a candidate.

By: Kevin

Kevin — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:31:15 +0000

Maloney would be a good pick. She is qualified and has earned it.

By: fsteele

fsteele — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:24:14 +0000

Here is a new story on Paterson and CK. It sounds like he is not pleased by the media hype for her. The other applicants mentioned in the story are all men. If supporting CK is now a lost cause, maybe the support would be more useful if switched to Maloney.

http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/543453.html

By: Anna

Anna — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:23:18 +0000

Wow, there’s a raging conversation going on here! I dare not jump in. Too much catching up to do. Will just take the easy road and respondd the the very last and brief post by noting:

Obama can’t seem to break his habit of smoking, yet no one has been concerned.

I’m outta’ here! Enjoy the rest of y’all!!! It’s a great conversation (though, I too, am puzzled by the focus on Ms. Kennedy’s skin).

By: fsteele

fsteele — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:05:20 +0000

While not determinative, a candidate’s physical/emotional health is one valid concern among many.

By: Sis

Sis — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:15:29 +0000

fsteele “latte tree-hugger” is an oxymoron. And “Legally Blond(e)” is a modern day telling of Pride and Prejudice. Not a bad analogy though, Palin as Elizabeth Bennett: Spunky, smart, not a follower, no one’s fool.

By: Sis

Sis — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:11:50 +0000

meant to say….the *news* by Entertainment Tonight.