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	<title>Comments on: Repackaging Larry Summers: &#8220;Maybe women really ARE dumb&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: That&#8217;s Really Super, Supergirl &#171; peacocks and lilies</title>
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		<dc:creator>That&#8217;s Really Super, Supergirl &#171; peacocks and lilies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] any of that in light of this, this, and this? That&#8217;s just the beginning; don&#8217;t forget Summers, Favreau, the Stimulus Plan. How much evidence does one need to mount to prove that Obama is out of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] any of that in light of this, this, and this? That&#8217;s just the beginning; don&#8217;t forget Summers, Favreau, the Stimulus Plan. How much evidence does one need to mount to prove that Obama is out of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: fsteele</title>
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		<dc:creator>fsteele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 05:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopkins walked out in the middle of Summers&#039; talk, later talking about having emotional symptoms. This is not the scientific attitude. 

She, and some other women, are acting out the very stereotypes we are trying to live down.

Why are we focusing on a Summers gaffe years ago, instead of on something current (like telling Obama to fire the groping speechwriter) or something important (like trying to get a qualified Clinton supporter appointed to Hillary&#039;s seat instead of Caroline Kennedy)?

So far, the focus on Summers has given Obama cover to appoint two inexperienced bots -- as token women. (Romer and Melody whosis)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopkins walked out in the middle of Summers&#8217; talk, later talking about having emotional symptoms. This is not the scientific attitude. </p>
<p>She, and some other women, are acting out the very stereotypes we are trying to live down.</p>
<p>Why are we focusing on a Summers gaffe years ago, instead of on something current (like telling Obama to fire the groping speechwriter) or something important (like trying to get a qualified Clinton supporter appointed to Hillary&#8217;s seat instead of Caroline Kennedy)?</p>
<p>So far, the focus on Summers has given Obama cover to appoint two inexperienced bots &#8212; as token women. (Romer and Melody whosis)</p>
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		<title>By: John Horning</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Horning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 16:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taken from an article by Marcella Bombardieri, Globe Staff, January 17, 2005 as forwarded to me by Trish from the Women Vote – Women Count group:

Summers said cutting-edge research has shown that genetics are more important than previously thought, compared with environment or upbringing. As an example, he mentioned autism, once believed to be a result of parenting but now widely seen to have a genetic basis.
In his talk, according to several participants, Summers also used as an example one of his daughters, who as a child was given two trucks in an effort at gender-neutral parenting. Yet she treated them almost like dolls, naming one of them &#039;&#039;daddy truck,&quot; and one &#039;&#039;baby truck.&quot;

Dr. Larry Summers uses a very different definition of science than I do.  He also makes very different connections between issues, such as autism being comparable to the innate abilities for math and science by gender.
Also taken from the same article:

The organizer of the conference, Harvard economist Richard B. Freeman, described Summers&#039; critics as activists whose sensibilities might be at odds with intellectual debate.

Some of the critics he was referring to: Nancy Hopkins, a biologist at Massachusetts Institute of Technology;  Denice D. Denton, chancellor designate of the University of California, Santa Cruz,;  Anne C. Petersen, former deputy director of the National Science Foundation;  Catherine Didion, former executive director of the Association for Women in Science; and Donna J. Nelson, chemistry professor at the University of Oklahoma.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taken from an article by Marcella Bombardieri, Globe Staff, January 17, 2005 as forwarded to me by Trish from the Women Vote – Women Count group:</p>
<p>Summers said cutting-edge research has shown that genetics are more important than previously thought, compared with environment or upbringing. As an example, he mentioned autism, once believed to be a result of parenting but now widely seen to have a genetic basis.<br />
In his talk, according to several participants, Summers also used as an example one of his daughters, who as a child was given two trucks in an effort at gender-neutral parenting. Yet she treated them almost like dolls, naming one of them &#8221;daddy truck,&#8221; and one &#8221;baby truck.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dr. Larry Summers uses a very different definition of science than I do.  He also makes very different connections between issues, such as autism being comparable to the innate abilities for math and science by gender.<br />
Also taken from the same article:</p>
<p>The organizer of the conference, Harvard economist Richard B. Freeman, described Summers&#8217; critics as activists whose sensibilities might be at odds with intellectual debate.</p>
<p>Some of the critics he was referring to: Nancy Hopkins, a biologist at Massachusetts Institute of Technology;  Denice D. Denton, chancellor designate of the University of California, Santa Cruz,;  Anne C. Petersen, former deputy director of the National Science Foundation;  Catherine Didion, former executive director of the Association for Women in Science; and Donna J. Nelson, chemistry professor at the University of Oklahoma.</p>
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		<title>By: Reclusive Leftist &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Christmas comes but four or five times a year</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reclusive Leftist &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Christmas comes but four or five times a year</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 14:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an animatronic Nativity scene on the lawn.) That means that instead of writing a post today about the infuriating rehabilitation of Larry Summers and the associated acid reflux in my esophagus, I&#8217;m going to write about Sinterklaas (which [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] an animatronic Nativity scene on the lawn.) That means that instead of writing a post today about the infuriating rehabilitation of Larry Summers and the associated acid reflux in my esophagus, I&#8217;m going to write about Sinterklaas (which [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Josie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read the article in the Washington Post.  I am a teacher and find that boys are sometimes better at maths on the whole, not because they are more able than the girls, but because they prefer it to english (a subject which they sometimes struggle in).   

Articles like this, pointing this stuff out, is sexist.  I mean, why arn&#039;t there articles pointing out how much better girls are at reading and writing? Because that would seem silly.  Articles like this remind me of those old victorian papers that tried to &#039;prove&#039; black people were not as evolved as whites.  Look forward to Nancy&#039;s article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read the article in the Washington Post.  I am a teacher and find that boys are sometimes better at maths on the whole, not because they are more able than the girls, but because they prefer it to english (a subject which they sometimes struggle in).   </p>
<p>Articles like this, pointing this stuff out, is sexist.  I mean, why arn&#8217;t there articles pointing out how much better girls are at reading and writing? Because that would seem silly.  Articles like this remind me of those old victorian papers that tried to &#8216;prove&#8217; black people were not as evolved as whites.  Look forward to Nancy&#8217;s article.</p>
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		<title>By: Zee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gretchen&#039;s article was awesome...looking forward to Nancy&#039;s tomorrow.

I&#039;ll be sending them around!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gretchen&#8217;s article was awesome&#8230;looking forward to Nancy&#8217;s tomorrow.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be sending them around!</p>
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		<title>By: Kitkat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kitkat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John and Kevin - I agree.

If Summers had said that blacks were genetically inferior in math and science, would Obama elevate Summers to this position? 

I think not.

In the US, sexism is acceptable, racism is not.

Unfortunately, even some of the new women&#039;s groups do not see it.  I also found it really disappointing that Women Count attirbute Kay Hagen&#039;s win to Obama:  Barack Obama’s success in North Carolina likely gave Hagan a boost.  Do they not even see it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John and Kevin &#8211; I agree.</p>
<p>If Summers had said that blacks were genetically inferior in math and science, would Obama elevate Summers to this position? </p>
<p>I think not.</p>
<p>In the US, sexism is acceptable, racism is not.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, even some of the new women&#8217;s groups do not see it.  I also found it really disappointing that Women Count attirbute Kay Hagen&#8217;s win to Obama:  Barack Obama’s success in North Carolina likely gave Hagan a boost.  Do they not even see it?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem here is that Larry Summers, Tim Geithner and Paul Volcker received the top financial appointments while Christine Romer received the number crunching job and Shelia  Bair is being marginalized.

Women were hosed on this one and should be reasonably upset given than Larry, Tim and Paul all played a role in getting us in the current economic mess.

And oh, Bill Richardson - got the other financial post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem here is that Larry Summers, Tim Geithner and Paul Volcker received the top financial appointments while Christine Romer received the number crunching job and Shelia  Bair is being marginalized.</p>
<p>Women were hosed on this one and should be reasonably upset given than Larry, Tim and Paul all played a role in getting us in the current economic mess.</p>
<p>And oh, Bill Richardson &#8211; got the other financial post.</p>
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		<title>By: John Horning</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Horning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have already expressed my viewpoint in the blog: How’s the Economy Really Doing?  I am indifferent about Larry Summers the person.  I am concerned about the public perception of women in the United States.  Perhaps The New Agenda should take the exact quote, replace the men versus women sections with white people versus black people similar to what I did in the other blog and send it to the transition team.  Ask the following questions, (1) if this is what he had said, would you have chosen him? (2) If so, why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have already expressed my viewpoint in the blog: How’s the Economy Really Doing?  I am indifferent about Larry Summers the person.  I am concerned about the public perception of women in the United States.  Perhaps The New Agenda should take the exact quote, replace the men versus women sections with white people versus black people similar to what I did in the other blog and send it to the transition team.  Ask the following questions, (1) if this is what he had said, would you have chosen him? (2) If so, why?</p>
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