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		<title>By: goesh</title>
		<link>http://www.thenewagenda.net/2008/10/27/our-work-together-is-getting-results/comment-page-1/#comment-1696</link>
		<dc:creator>goesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PUMA voices were heard regarding the Palin effigy. The Secret Service made an inquiry and the situation has been referred for further inquiry by a hate crimes unit of the local police. Various officials have received calls from irate citizens. The effigy still swings in the breeze, afforded Constitutional protection but the voices of dissent and objection resonate deeper and further and carry much more weight than a hapless mannequin with a red coat touting  its message of  violence against women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PUMA voices were heard regarding the Palin effigy. The Secret Service made an inquiry and the situation has been referred for further inquiry by a hate crimes unit of the local police. Various officials have received calls from irate citizens. The effigy still swings in the breeze, afforded Constitutional protection but the voices of dissent and objection resonate deeper and further and carry much more weight than a hapless mannequin with a red coat touting  its message of  violence against women.</p>
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		<title>By: Maura Orla</title>
		<link>http://www.thenewagenda.net/2008/10/27/our-work-together-is-getting-results/comment-page-1/#comment-1694</link>
		<dc:creator>Maura Orla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 03:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alice, I must address your first point.  I lived in England for a decade and dealt with the National Health.  All I can say is NEVER AGAIN.   When I was pregnant they told me only one anesthesiologist might be on duty and if he was busy elsewhere I might not get my epidural!  When I went to the National dentist he informed me that I could get my root canal on the national health, but that if I saw him as a &quot;private patient&quot; I could get it done quicker, with less pain.  Our family doctor was ASSIGNED to us according to where we lived, and no matter what the ailment he prescribed, in his faltering English, amoxicillin.  I used to tell people that in the US people with no insurance went to County - in the UK EVERYONE went to County.  No thanks, I&#039;ll take my deductible, thank you.

Re the effigy issue, it seems even law enforcement doesn&#039;t get it.  If the rest of this West Hollywood Whack Job&#039;s neighbors hung Obamas to protest, maybe THAT would get the point across, but what woman wants to stoop to that hate level?  Is that what it is going to take?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alice, I must address your first point.  I lived in England for a decade and dealt with the National Health.  All I can say is NEVER AGAIN.   When I was pregnant they told me only one anesthesiologist might be on duty and if he was busy elsewhere I might not get my epidural!  When I went to the National dentist he informed me that I could get my root canal on the national health, but that if I saw him as a &#8220;private patient&#8221; I could get it done quicker, with less pain.  Our family doctor was ASSIGNED to us according to where we lived, and no matter what the ailment he prescribed, in his faltering English, amoxicillin.  I used to tell people that in the US people with no insurance went to County &#8211; in the UK EVERYONE went to County.  No thanks, I&#8217;ll take my deductible, thank you.</p>
<p>Re the effigy issue, it seems even law enforcement doesn&#8217;t get it.  If the rest of this West Hollywood Whack Job&#8217;s neighbors hung Obamas to protest, maybe THAT would get the point across, but what woman wants to stoop to that hate level?  Is that what it is going to take?</p>
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		<title>By: Alice Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.thenewagenda.net/2008/10/27/our-work-together-is-getting-results/comment-page-1/#comment-1691</link>
		<dc:creator>Alice Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have lived in Canada, and yes I have experienced government run health care. It has it&#039;s flaws BUT for all those flaws it is STILL more humane than what is now done with HMO&#039;s and the insurance companies at home in the U.S.A.

Having said THAT, Obama&#039;s plan will not work. It is not comprehensive enough and is FULL of loopholes that will make it more expensive while covering fewer people. It will also allow drug companies and insurance companies loopholes for lots of varying ways to run up costs to YOU. It&#039;s not Hillary&#039;s plan, she understood it had to be done mandated with ALL the loopholes closed or there was no way it could be cost effective and cover everyone. *sigh* We had the teacher, they gave us the student.

I&#039;m for getting misogyny written into the hate crime laws after this! Governor Palin is hung in effigy and it&#039;s not a hate crime but, it WOULD be if it were Obama. O&#039;Reilly just said it&#039;s because of the countries past history of violence towards the African American community in the country. Fair enough.

What about the thousands of women being sold into sexual slavery, being beaten,raped and dying in and out of their homes due to their gender Bill? This is NOT HISTORY, this is our reality today. It gets a pass because it&#039;s not considered hate if you do it to &quot;just&quot; women. And that&#039;s how far we have NOT come....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have lived in Canada, and yes I have experienced government run health care. It has it&#8217;s flaws BUT for all those flaws it is STILL more humane than what is now done with HMO&#8217;s and the insurance companies at home in the U.S.A.</p>
<p>Having said THAT, Obama&#8217;s plan will not work. It is not comprehensive enough and is FULL of loopholes that will make it more expensive while covering fewer people. It will also allow drug companies and insurance companies loopholes for lots of varying ways to run up costs to YOU. It&#8217;s not Hillary&#8217;s plan, she understood it had to be done mandated with ALL the loopholes closed or there was no way it could be cost effective and cover everyone. *sigh* We had the teacher, they gave us the student.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m for getting misogyny written into the hate crime laws after this! Governor Palin is hung in effigy and it&#8217;s not a hate crime but, it WOULD be if it were Obama. O&#8217;Reilly just said it&#8217;s because of the countries past history of violence towards the African American community in the country. Fair enough.</p>
<p>What about the thousands of women being sold into sexual slavery, being beaten,raped and dying in and out of their homes due to their gender Bill? This is NOT HISTORY, this is our reality today. It gets a pass because it&#8217;s not considered hate if you do it to &#8220;just&#8221; women. And that&#8217;s how far we have NOT come&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Kitkat</title>
		<link>http://www.thenewagenda.net/2008/10/27/our-work-together-is-getting-results/comment-page-1/#comment-1690</link>
		<dc:creator>Kitkat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>goesh - you have a very good point and it reminds me of the quote on the front page:

&quot;If women want any rights more than they&#039;s got, why don&#039;t they just take them, and not be talking about it.&quot; - Sojourner Truth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>goesh &#8211; you have a very good point and it reminds me of the quote on the front page:</p>
<p>&#8220;If women want any rights more than they&#8217;s got, why don&#8217;t they just take them, and not be talking about it.&#8221; &#8211; Sojourner Truth</p>
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		<title>By: Kitkat</title>
		<link>http://www.thenewagenda.net/2008/10/27/our-work-together-is-getting-results/comment-page-1/#comment-1688</link>
		<dc:creator>Kitkat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have our work cut out for us.

There is an interesting discussion over at Liberal Rapture about the Sarah Palin Halloween display of hate.  I encourage everyone to take a look (its the second posting from the top).  

http://www.liberalrapture.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have our work cut out for us.</p>
<p>There is an interesting discussion over at Liberal Rapture about the Sarah Palin Halloween display of hate.  I encourage everyone to take a look (its the second posting from the top).  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.liberalrapture.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.liberalrapture.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Monarch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monarch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>biteoftheweek:

Women are the political scapegoats this season which necessitates forming groups like this.  The hate crimes directed against Senator Clinton and Governor Palin are also designed to intimidate the female supporters of these two powerful women.  This tactic is disgraceful and amoral and we have to take a stand against it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>biteoftheweek:</p>
<p>Women are the political scapegoats this season which necessitates forming groups like this.  The hate crimes directed against Senator Clinton and Governor Palin are also designed to intimidate the female supporters of these two powerful women.  This tactic is disgraceful and amoral and we have to take a stand against it.</p>
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		<title>By: goesh</title>
		<link>http://www.thenewagenda.net/2008/10/27/our-work-together-is-getting-results/comment-page-1/#comment-1681</link>
		<dc:creator>goesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>- one would hope that at least a few women and token men  would be out front of the home where the hanging Sarah Palin dangles in the wind protesting, yet it is safer, easier and more convenient to angrily peck away at a keyboard. By all accounts, I view the plight of women being very similiar to the plight of early labor and civil rights movements, yet women hold themselves incapable of paying hard  dues in the streets. Radical action is tearing the effigy down, not a well written, angry petition sent to the Mayor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- one would hope that at least a few women and token men  would be out front of the home where the hanging Sarah Palin dangles in the wind protesting, yet it is safer, easier and more convenient to angrily peck away at a keyboard. By all accounts, I view the plight of women being very similiar to the plight of early labor and civil rights movements, yet women hold themselves incapable of paying hard  dues in the streets. Radical action is tearing the effigy down, not a well written, angry petition sent to the Mayor.</p>
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		<title>By: biteoftheweek</title>
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		<dc:creator>biteoftheweek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off topic:


I am very concerned that Sarah Palin has been and is being set up to take the fall for McCain&#039;s loss.  

I saw the same thing with Obama.  Over and over I read that it would be Hillary&#039;s fault if Obama lost because she:

a) didn&#039;t support him enough

b) didn&#039;t quit the race soon enough

c) attacked him to harshly during the campaign

d) was undermining him so that she could run in 2012

e) any combination of the above.

Now I am hearing and reading that it is Palin who is the drag on the ticket.  She is the reason he is down in the polls.


and Adam wouldn&#039;t have fallen if that damn Eve wouldn&#039;t have gotten him to take the fruit.

And Salame made John the Baptist lose his head

and Delila cut Samson&#039;s hair

etc and so it goes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off topic:</p>
<p>I am very concerned that Sarah Palin has been and is being set up to take the fall for McCain&#8217;s loss.  </p>
<p>I saw the same thing with Obama.  Over and over I read that it would be Hillary&#8217;s fault if Obama lost because she:</p>
<p>a) didn&#8217;t support him enough</p>
<p>b) didn&#8217;t quit the race soon enough</p>
<p>c) attacked him to harshly during the campaign</p>
<p>d) was undermining him so that she could run in 2012</p>
<p>e) any combination of the above.</p>
<p>Now I am hearing and reading that it is Palin who is the drag on the ticket.  She is the reason he is down in the polls.</p>
<p>and Adam wouldn&#8217;t have fallen if that damn Eve wouldn&#8217;t have gotten him to take the fruit.</p>
<p>And Salame made John the Baptist lose his head</p>
<p>and Delila cut Samson&#8217;s hair</p>
<p>etc and so it goes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RealChange</title>
		<link>http://www.thenewagenda.net/2008/10/27/our-work-together-is-getting-results/comment-page-1/#comment-1671</link>
		<dc:creator>RealChange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had forwarded that horrible video as posted on this website to both Greta and Lou Dobbs, as they are the only 2 MSM shows I could stand to watch anymore.  I had asked if this was something that the Secret Service should be looking into, as it is a threat of violence against a Vice-Presidential candidate.  Probably not, since it seems anything goes when it comes to the internet. 

 I feel like we&#039;ve regressed at least 40 years when it comes to the vile and dangerous sexism and misogyny we&#039;ve witnessed during this election process.  I am truly afraid of what the future holds for women if the Democratic Party is successful in installing their chosen candidate in the office of POTUS.

I&#039;ve decided to not watch television or read newspapers until after election day.  I just get too depressed and angry.  I don&#039;t want to lose my faith that the American people will get this election right.  We can survive 4 years of a McCain administration and still have some power left to effect the political system.  But if Obama wins, we will have given up the power of our vote to mean anything, and in the future, politicians and the government will do whatever they want to do and we won&#039;t be able to do anything about it...except resist.

Here&#039;s to hoping that after election day we are on the right side of history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had forwarded that horrible video as posted on this website to both Greta and Lou Dobbs, as they are the only 2 MSM shows I could stand to watch anymore.  I had asked if this was something that the Secret Service should be looking into, as it is a threat of violence against a Vice-Presidential candidate.  Probably not, since it seems anything goes when it comes to the internet. </p>
<p> I feel like we&#8217;ve regressed at least 40 years when it comes to the vile and dangerous sexism and misogyny we&#8217;ve witnessed during this election process.  I am truly afraid of what the future holds for women if the Democratic Party is successful in installing their chosen candidate in the office of POTUS.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve decided to not watch television or read newspapers until after election day.  I just get too depressed and angry.  I don&#8217;t want to lose my faith that the American people will get this election right.  We can survive 4 years of a McCain administration and still have some power left to effect the political system.  But if Obama wins, we will have given up the power of our vote to mean anything, and in the future, politicians and the government will do whatever they want to do and we won&#8217;t be able to do anything about it&#8230;except resist.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s to hoping that after election day we are on the right side of history.</p>
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		<title>By: val sommerviile</title>
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		<dc:creator>val sommerviile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a topic that has been avoided by most.  Healthcare for all of us.  Have you ever experienced Government run healthcare?  Do you really want this?  Please read and then think hard about this.
http://hillaryloyalistnowformccain.com/medicaidforeveryamericanregardlessofyourincome.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a topic that has been avoided by most.  Healthcare for all of us.  Have you ever experienced Government run healthcare?  Do you really want this?  Please read and then think hard about this.<br />
<a href="http://hillaryloyalistnowformccain.com/medicaidforeveryamericanregardlessofyourincome.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://hillaryloyalistnowformc.....ncome.aspx</a></p>
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